Showing posts with label getting LOST. Show all posts
Showing posts with label getting LOST. Show all posts
Monday, July 13, 2009
Sunday, April 5, 2009
Getting LOST 05x11 "Whatever Happened, Happened" (post alternately titled - LOST theories that can finally get lost)
A big thank you to LOST for using the hilarious Miles/Hurley exchange to finally blow away the annoying time travel theories flying around this season. Alternate realities, splitting timelines, time loops resulting in multiple (separate) versions of each character- theories almost as annoying as the Season 1 "It's purgatory!!" bandwagon, are finally gone. Gone. Like Marty's siblings and his disappearing hand. Erased from existence.
Like Hurley, many fans based their knowledge of time travel on Back to the Future. But clearly, the LOST writers are not following those rules. They've made their own and for anyone paying attention to Faraday's emphatic "whatever happened, happened" speeches, one would realize this is the rule the writers are following. They've pulled twists on us in the past, but that would just be ridiculous for them to preach Faraday's mantra as the core time travel rule and then rip it out from under us.
So, we can finally forget everything Back to the Future taught us about time travel. There is no flying Delorean, no flux capacitor and no white-haired, wild-eyed scientist (OK, Faraday is a little wild-eyed, but his hair is definitely not white). There is one reality, one timeline and whatever happened, happened. What we're seeing now in 1977 is the way it always happened. We just didn't know it during seasons 1 through 4 and for the Losties personal timelines, 1977 is the future even though it's taking place in the past in the overall timeline.
As for the curious case of Desmond David Hume that so many fans used to back their alternate reality/split timeline theories? Rewatch The Constant. It explicitly tells us that Desmond is different. His consciousness can travel through time, at any time. Meaning, he can wake up from sleeping (er...consciousness time traveling) with a brand new memory that just happened to him at that moment even if the year his consciousness traveled to happened to be three years in the past. Rules do not apply to him. Anything that happens to him cannot be used an example to support any kind of time-looping, alternate reality theory.
On a non-time traveling note, what happened to Jack? Why is he such a sniveling, miserable shell of his former self? And how ironic that his refusal to save young Ben actually caused old Ben to become the maniacal, calculating lunatic we know and hate in 2004. Of course, Sayid helped a little by shooting young Ben. But between the two of them, they created the very thing they were trying to prevent. You can't change the future or the past. Whatever happened, happened.
Like Hurley, many fans based their knowledge of time travel on Back to the Future. But clearly, the LOST writers are not following those rules. They've made their own and for anyone paying attention to Faraday's emphatic "whatever happened, happened" speeches, one would realize this is the rule the writers are following. They've pulled twists on us in the past, but that would just be ridiculous for them to preach Faraday's mantra as the core time travel rule and then rip it out from under us.
So, we can finally forget everything Back to the Future taught us about time travel. There is no flying Delorean, no flux capacitor and no white-haired, wild-eyed scientist (OK, Faraday is a little wild-eyed, but his hair is definitely not white). There is one reality, one timeline and whatever happened, happened. What we're seeing now in 1977 is the way it always happened. We just didn't know it during seasons 1 through 4 and for the Losties personal timelines, 1977 is the future even though it's taking place in the past in the overall timeline.
As for the curious case of Desmond David Hume that so many fans used to back their alternate reality/split timeline theories? Rewatch The Constant. It explicitly tells us that Desmond is different. His consciousness can travel through time, at any time. Meaning, he can wake up from sleeping (er...consciousness time traveling) with a brand new memory that just happened to him at that moment even if the year his consciousness traveled to happened to be three years in the past. Rules do not apply to him. Anything that happens to him cannot be used an example to support any kind of time-looping, alternate reality theory.
On a non-time traveling note, what happened to Jack? Why is he such a sniveling, miserable shell of his former self? And how ironic that his refusal to save young Ben actually caused old Ben to become the maniacal, calculating lunatic we know and hate in 2004. Of course, Sayid helped a little by shooting young Ben. But between the two of them, they created the very thing they were trying to prevent. You can't change the future or the past. Whatever happened, happened.
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Getting LOST - Season 5/Episode 6 "316"
I've been meaning to post my LOST predictions based on last week's episode (316), but kept finding other things to do with my time. But, since the next episode airs tonight, I wanted to post my theories here before the new episode.
So, here's what I'm thinking:
1. How did Hurley know to be on the flight?
Charlie, of course! It's not much a stretch since a) Hurley has seen dead Charlie before and b) Hurley has a guitar case. My guess is that it's Charlie's guitar case. Whether or not it contains a guitar or a stash of munchies remains to be seen.
2. Jin in the Dharma suit.
I'm pretty sure the I7-minus-Charlotte (now the I6) infiltrated the Dharma initiative. They are clearly in Dharma's timeframe since Jin's cruising around in a very new Dharma van. Daniel most likely advised them to infiltrate Dharma so a) Dharma doesn't think they're others and hurt/maim/kill them and b) Daniel wants to know what's in the Swan.
We'll probably see the full scene with Daniel in the Swan from season 5/episode 1, as well as Daniel telling young Charlotte never to come back to the island.
3. So, what about Sayid getting arrested and who is that woman with him?
I think the "officer" with Sayid is working for Ben/Mrs. Hawking to get Sayid back to the island. I think she's an Other and has been on the island before. And I think we'll see more of her.
4. Where's Aaron?
Someone probably came to Kate and told her she shouldn't take Aaron back to the island. Technically, Aaron wasn't born yet, so he wasn't (technically) on flight 815. He may be one of the O6, but that doesn't mean he belongs on the flight to Gaum.
My first thought was that Ben had someone working for him to convince Kate not to bring Aaron back, but someone else mentioned the possibility of Claire having something to do with it. This sounds reasonable to me- Kate has seen Claire before in a dream and Claire was very adamant with Kate that she never bring Aaron back to the island.
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I'm still waiting for the O6 is shooting at the I6 theory to get debunked. Yes, they arrived on Ajira airlines (we pretty much knew that's how it would go down based on that water bottle in the canoe), but there is no good reason for them to be randomly shooting. It's most likely either someone from Dharma or the Others.
So, there. Now I'm ready for tonight's episode- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham." Interesting to note that John Locke's alias is also the name of a philosopher/social reformer.
So, here's what I'm thinking:
1. How did Hurley know to be on the flight?
Charlie, of course! It's not much a stretch since a) Hurley has seen dead Charlie before and b) Hurley has a guitar case. My guess is that it's Charlie's guitar case. Whether or not it contains a guitar or a stash of munchies remains to be seen.
2. Jin in the Dharma suit.
I'm pretty sure the I7-minus-Charlotte (now the I6) infiltrated the Dharma initiative. They are clearly in Dharma's timeframe since Jin's cruising around in a very new Dharma van. Daniel most likely advised them to infiltrate Dharma so a) Dharma doesn't think they're others and hurt/maim/kill them and b) Daniel wants to know what's in the Swan.
We'll probably see the full scene with Daniel in the Swan from season 5/episode 1, as well as Daniel telling young Charlotte never to come back to the island.
3. So, what about Sayid getting arrested and who is that woman with him?
I think the "officer" with Sayid is working for Ben/Mrs. Hawking to get Sayid back to the island. I think she's an Other and has been on the island before. And I think we'll see more of her.
4. Where's Aaron?
Someone probably came to Kate and told her she shouldn't take Aaron back to the island. Technically, Aaron wasn't born yet, so he wasn't (technically) on flight 815. He may be one of the O6, but that doesn't mean he belongs on the flight to Gaum.
My first thought was that Ben had someone working for him to convince Kate not to bring Aaron back, but someone else mentioned the possibility of Claire having something to do with it. This sounds reasonable to me- Kate has seen Claire before in a dream and Claire was very adamant with Kate that she never bring Aaron back to the island.
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I'm still waiting for the O6 is shooting at the I6 theory to get debunked. Yes, they arrived on Ajira airlines (we pretty much knew that's how it would go down based on that water bottle in the canoe), but there is no good reason for them to be randomly shooting. It's most likely either someone from Dharma or the Others.
So, there. Now I'm ready for tonight's episode- "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham." Interesting to note that John Locke's alias is also the name of a philosopher/social reformer.
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